Demokratische Präsidentschaftskandidatur 2020: Anschnallen!
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Wanli, 20.02.2020 17:17, Antwort aufHab die gestrige Debatte nicht gesehen, werde das aber am Wochenende nachholen (wenn ich sie auf Youtube finden kann), denn sie scheint wirklich spektakulär gewesen zu sein. Waren bislang eher zivilisierte, nuancenreiche Diskussionen die Regel, flogen diesmal offenbar die Fetzen - und die meisten TeilnehmerInnen zeigten eine Leistung, die jetzt schon Lust auf die Debatten gegen den Orange Utan im Herbst macht.
On a scale of 1-10, how contentious was it? An 8. The gloves finally came off, and it turned into something of a free-for-all. The main battles of the evening:
- Sanders vs. everyone
- Bloomberg vs. everyone
- Buttigieg vs. Klobuchar
- Warren vs. Klobuchar
- Biden vs. Buttigieg
While one does not want to pooh-pooh the value of calm, reasoned political discourse, all the give and take certainly kept things interesting, and probably kept anyone from thinking about leaving and going to the performance of "Sex Tips for Straight Women from a Gay Man" that was happening next door during the debate.
On a scale of 1-10, how much will this debate move the needle? We will say 5. That's actually just a neutral, non-committal answer because there are too many known unknowns. Can Warren actually turn things around? Will Bloomberg rise, fall, or remain steady after his first time on the big stage? Is Joe Biden out of chances? Can Bernie Sanders get any redder? We mean that in the sense of ruddy-faced, not in the McCarthy sense. Anyhow, we just don't know the answers to these questions.
The bottom line: This was the most memorable debate of the cycle. Whether that actually affects the contours of the race, though, remains to be seen.
Noch viel mehr zur Debatte hier:
https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Maps/Feb20.html#item-1
Wanlis Lieblingskandidatin Liz Warren scheint besonders geglänzt zu haben, zumindest legen das die Medienberichte nahe.
Warren dominated the stage, delivering striking answers in one of the best performances I’ve seen from a presidential candidate — not just in this cycle, but ever.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/19/21144877/who-won-nevada-democr atic-debate-2020
For those of us who haven't had a chance to see Harley Quinn kicking dude ass in "Birds of Prey," watching Warren wallop Bloomberg across the stage (metaphorically speaking) was a more than adequate substitute.
After months of seemingly fading toward the background, Warren gave everyone a reminder that she’s at her best when she’s fighting, especially someone with a massive fortune. It may or may not be enough to bring back her candidacy from the brink. But I’m sure at least a few voters found themselves thinking it would be fun to see her give Donald Trump the same treatment as the billionaire she embarrassed in Nevada.
Mal sehen, ob es ihr hilft.
1. As Axios previewed this morning, the candidates came armed with decades of opposition research designed to paint Bloomberg as a Democratic Trump — an egomaniac New York billionaire stained by sexism and racial prejudice, and hell-bent on buying power and puppeteering mass media.
- That was clear within minutes, as Sen. Elizabeth Warren launched into the first of many attacks: "I'd like to talk about who we're running against. We're talking about a billionaire who calls women fat broads and horse-faced lesbians. And no, I'm not talking about Donald Trump, I'm talking about Mayor Bloomberg."
- Bloomberg's record continued to be savaged throughout the night as he faced questions about his support for stop-and-frisk, endorsement of former President George W. Bush, history of sexist comments, non-disclosure agreements at his company, tax returns and more.
- Bloomberg's best moments of the night came when the onslaught was directed at the other front-runner, Bernie Sanders, and he was able to fade into the background.
2. The biggest beneficiary of Bloomberg's presence was Warren, who found the foil she desperately needed after disappointing finishes in Iowa and New Hampshire. She faced questions after the New Hampshire debate about why she didn't get more speaking time, and it was clear she wasn't going to let that happen again.
- With little to lose, Warren targeted nearly every candidate on health care, calling Buttigieg's plan "a slogan that was thought out by his consultants," Klobuchar's plan "a Post-it Note — insert plan here," and jabbing Sanders for "relentlessly attacking everyone" who questions his version of Medicare for All.
- A Warren aide tweeted toward the end of the debate that the campaign raised $425,000 in 30 minutes. If this debate doesn't boost her polling numbers, it's unlikely any debate will.
3. Joe Biden, long the front-runner but increasingly an afterthought, had one of his strongest debates of this cycle. The surge of Bloomberg, whom Biden has accused of falsely touting an endorsement from former President Obama in his campaign ads, seemed to energize the former vice president, who accused the billionaire of being a Republican.
- Biden arguably needs to win in South Carolina, long viewed as his firewall due to its significant black population, if his campaign is to remain viable long-term.
4. Buttigieg and Klobuchar, two Midwestern moderates fighting for a similar bloc of voters, faced off in some of the most heated — and seemingly personal — clashes of the night.
- Klobuchar accused the former South Bend, Ind., mayor of insinuating she was "dumb" and unqualified for not knowing the name of Mexico's president, and later quipped: “I wish everyone was as perfect as you, Pete." She left the stage at the end of the night without shaking his hand.
- Both candidates performed well in New Hampshire, splitting the moderate vote as Biden continued his free-fall. But with little support among minority communities and Bloomberg consolidating support in Super Tuesday states, Buttigieg and Klobuchar face an existential threat to each others' campaigns going forward.
The bottom line: The big winner of the night was likely the front-runner Bernie Sanders. He faced the usual criticism on the cost of his plans and his self-identifying democratic socialist label, but the novelty and bitterness of the attacks on Bloomberg is what will be remembered from tonight.
https://www.axios.com/nevada-democratic-debate-takeaways-c5b5b86f-8fd6-4957-b465 -cfef911b76c1.html
EDIT
Seldon Adelson, Multimilliardär und dicke mit dem Donald, besitzt die auflagenstärkste Zeitung Nevadas. Heute mit einer ganzseitigen Anzeige Liz Warrens, in der sie vorrechnet, wie viel mehr Adelson dank ihrer Reichensteuer zahlen müsste.
https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/1230504059439726592